'The guards do not bring us to work on the surface very often, but the last time that they did, I saw some of the great war-machines being constructed within the Ring. I do not know how close they are to being completed, but if we can do anything to prevent them from leaving Isengard, we surely must.

'What is it they say about birds and stones? I think the black powder you collected might serve as the perfect distraction and also deprive our enemies of one of these war-machines.

'Go to the surface and leave the black powder near the largest of the war-machines, south-east of the steps of Orthanc. The amount you have should suffice for four small piles. We will set the war machines aflame when it is time for us to make our escape. The door to the surface is on the north side of the caverns.'

You have sprinkled the black powder near the largest of the war-machines under construction.

Objectives

• Leave the black powder near the largest of the war-machines under construction

Thak is near the war-machines on the surface, within the Ring of Isengard.

Thak noticed you lingering near the war-machines and has called you to speak with him.

Objectives

• Talk to Thak

Thak gave you some trouble when you went to leave the black powder at the war-machine. Now you can either speak to Morflak about Thak, as you threatened, or you can go directly back to Baldgar in the dungeons below Isengard. The door to the depths is north of Orthanc, and Morflak is south-west of the tower.

Objectives

• Talk to Baldgar

Baldgar is in the dungeons below Isengard. The entrance to the depths is north of the tower of Orthanc.

You have left the black powder near the largest of the war-machines within the Ring and should speak now with Baldgar in the dungeons.

Objectives

• Talk to Baldgar